and next to me is alex russ. he is with the association of equipment manufacturers, serving as its chief advocate on international government relations. so, thank you all for being here. the first question is easy. do we have agreement on this panel that tariffs on steel and aluminum placed against canada and mexico are a bad idea? is there a moment of hesitation? >> no. >> i just figured it was across the board. >>it is a no-brainer. it is ridiculous. if you start to walk through it. first of all, the united states has a trade surplus on steel with canada. so, why they are slapping tariffs on canadian imported steel is foolish. if you take a look at the negative impact that is having the auto industry and on canadian steelworkers then it begs the question why? if you take it look, we probably have 25 steel workplaces in canada where the workers are on work sharing programs. the whole arguments on tariffs on aluminum. the united states can't generate or make enough aluminum to satisfy their own internal market, s